The Dreaded Jumping Number "3"

Marty or Russ,

I am still having problems when it comes to saying "3" in the mouse grid, mostly, not always, it jumps off that that particular number and I keep having to say "undo" then repeat the number again and then it will jump off again and so on and so forth so I try to avoid the number "3" like the plague!

Is there any way I could use a simple text macro so that when I am using the mouse grid, I could say another word (Say for instance "trio") instead of the number itself to trigger the appropriate action?

Russ,

I think (not certain) that when I am using the mouse grid, the speech recognition is recognising when I say the number “3” as the number “5”.

So as you say each number from that of the mouse grid you want, if the actual point you want lands on a “3”, when you say that number, the mouse grid will not obey that number and it seems to pick the number “5” spot.  So then you have to say “undo” so that the mouse grid goes back to the status quo then you say it again and it does not work again and this can go on for ages!

I hope I have explained it better here.

What I was hoping could be done Russ, was to make a simple text macro to substitute the number “3”?

Four instance, say I was in the middle of using the mouse grid, then one part of it landed on a point I wanted to direct to and this part of the mouse grid had the number “3” on it, instead of me saying “3”, I could make a simple text macro to work with the mouse grid to say something like “trio” to make a clear distinction between that and “3”.

Then when I said “trio”, it would recognise this part of the mouse grid as being “3”?

Does that make any sense at all?

Russ,

[QUOTE]When the mouse grid is displayed on the screen, it is highly unlikely that Windows Speech Recognition is misinterpreting "three" as "five." That's because the words that WSR is expecting to hear is very limited: just one, two, three, ...up to nine, and a few other words.[QUOTE/]

That is what appears to be happening, my speech recognition is not recognizing the number “3”.     

[QUOTE]The fact that this is happening on the number five is interesting because when the mouse grid you say "click," the mouse always clicks in the very center of the "five" grid, wherever that is. This leads me to wonder if you are slowly saying "click ... three" instead of just "three." If this is the case, WSR might be reacting to the word "click."[QUOTE/]

No, you misunderstand, I never say “click” at all until I get it to the exact right spot I want, say it, if and the arrow clicks that spot.  So I may say for example “4”, “5”, “2”, “8”, “8” “click”, I always say “click” at the end, I never say “click 3” or click “5” because as soon as you say the word “click”, that triggers the arrow or cursor to go straight to the point you are on at the time. 

[QUOTE]Another possibility would be to try adding the number "3" to the speech dictionary and recording a pronunciation for it. This will help teach WSR exactly how you pronounce the number 3.[QUOTE/]

I have already tried that, when I do go in to the speech dictionary and put in the number “3”, it tells me that “3” is already in the speech dictionary and therefore I cannot make a another pronunciation of it.  

[QUOTE]Your idea of using a macro to work around this is a good idea. This is a trick you can use when you run into problems in certain applications. But unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to write a macro that will execute while the mouse grid is displayed.[QUOTE/]

If a problem such as this cannot work with the mouse grid, then perhaps Windows Speech Recognition should consider this problem for future reference.

I have another problem for you to help me with.  I have posted the same question in the “macro and macro development” section of this website but I have had no response as of yet to this question from that section so I thought I would try my luck in here: -

When I am in Microsoft Newsgroups, there are lots of threads and next to each thread there is a little white arrow and at the moment, the only way I can expand the thread to show all the messages within that thread, is to use the mouse grid.

I have tried to make a command macro to automatically expand the thread but it did not work. I looked up the functions on a keyboard to see what they do and left arrow and right arrow are shortcuts to expand and collapse threads, but there is no functions of these kind in the “Simulate Key Press” “Command Keys” within the command macros section in the WSR tool kit.

So then I tried another function, which when I looked up in “Windows Explorer Keyboard Shortcuts”, virtually does the same thing.  It is telling me that “NUM LOCK + ASTERISK (*) on” is a shortcut for “Display all subfolders under the selected folder”.  So when I was within the command macros section within the WSR tool kit, in the “When I Say” box I selected “Display” – in the “Simulate Key Press” “Command Keys” section, I chose “NUM LOCK +”.      Then in the “Numbers Letters an asterisk sign like so  *.

Then I went into Microsoft Newsgroups and tried it with a thread which was highlighted. I then said “display” in the hope that the macro would work and expand the thread but it did not.

Can anyone tell me where I have gone wrong?   Am I using the right command for this kind of keyboard shortcut?

Cheers

andy t

Andy T, to open a selected newsgroup item, you can probably just say "press Enter." This technique should work in just about any program where you have an item selected and you want to open it: icons on the desktop or in Windows Explorer, a selected email message in your email program, and so on. Try it out in a number of places and see how it works for you.

Oh my God!  All this time I have been saying “Show Numbers” and selected the number I wanted to open an e-mail or any other item and it turns out that all I had to do was say the simple word “Enter”.  All this time, I did not know that!

Thank you very much Russ.

I believe I have a pretty comprehensive set of commands that I use but obviously someone like yourself has uses for macros for other types of commands to do all sorts of things within your operating system.

Can you give me some sort of idea what you use some of yours to do and how you set them out?

andy t