Considerable problems with WSR stability

Hi anyone...???
VERY quiet here.  I would have thought there would be a lot more activity. Especially with the new release.

OK - my problems:
1. Trying to train the program:
I took the option of pasting my own text into WSRT - recognition is all over the place due to extraneous noise sensitivity.(I think)
I have actually just started up the programme here in the form and I won't do any corrections or near Except in a new we put them in brackets and correct where I came stop

Oh ..... back to keyboard that was hopeless.!!!!
1. The training program would accept my pasting text into it, but as I tried to read it it would jump whole paragraphs - as I was reading it.
2. The accuracy will be quite good but only in dead silence - ANY external noise creates beeping and "What was that?" messages.  AND only in Wordpad - doesn't work with anything else - as shown above.
3. Training doesn't "take"  - I cannot train it to accept "full stop" as a Period (.).  Doesn't like "period" either, or "end-of-line" commands.

I have tried adjusting the sensitivity, but nothing seems to change - even if the ratios are accepted.

Really dislike the idea of being forced back to Dragon and MSWord.
Hoping someone can help with settings experience especially.
I am using an inexpensive desktop USB Logitech after wasting a lot of money on more expensive units over the years and it does reasonably well in Dragon - as good as any I've tried. Even in WSR so long as there is dead silence......
 

Hello???
Have I been banned?
Just wasted an hour trying to post a reply here?   Twice.

Hi Marty,
I just sent a test message as after spending an hour responding, your system wouldn't let me back in - "authority error" - as in usually being banned!!  But, here we are........

 

Are you mixing up the WSRToolkit (developed by us) with WSR developed by Microsoft? The WSRToolkit is just a tool. If there are flaws beyond our control we should not be blamed for them. I would start with looking at your microphone as no microphone used at a long distance will be as good as a good noise canceling close talk microphone. You said on the forum, “after wasting a lot of money on more expensive units over the years.” You don’t say what these more expensive units are? We could not find any record of purchases from us other than the WSRToolkit? There may be more expensive microphones that are not good for speech recognition.

No,  the problems I now have are since I installed the WSRKit and actually relate to its specific abilities/services:
1. Changing sensitivity of mic.
2. Adding own text for training.
3. Type of mic has to be reset each startup.
4. 60% accuracy since the install.  I was originally impressed with WSR - it was equal to Dragon on a non-setup start.

I have used up to the "Rolls-Royce" Sennhauser (borrowed) and not been that impressed.  I don't like headsets and being tethered to the machine, and today, don't use wireless anything after reading genuine scientific reports on their dangers.

No, I hadn't purchased from you before - never heard of you - I'm in Oz...  :-)
I wasted a LOT of money over the years on equipment and for final value and application, the el cheapo Logitech amazed even me.  Certainly, the odd very expensive mics can produce a few percent more accuracy especially in difficult crowded/noisy situations, but at the cost of comfort and a lot of money.
For my needs as a writer/journalist the time factor is in thinking and composition and comfort is the biggest factor.
I mainly use portable dictation units, my old Sony SX70 producing best results of all equal to the more expensive Philips with DS modulation - around 96% accuracy overall in even non-ideal conditions on a beach.  (Not tested since installing the WSRKit and trying to change to WSR).

The Logitech for corrections and answering phones is fine - until now.



 

himAGAIN wrote: I think that your Server system is causing the problem by disconnecting if the subscriber spends more than "x" minutes composing a post.   I've seen that before ............. Luckily I had copied most of my last post - after the experience today - and it went thru ok.

I've found that WSR is more sensitive to microphone quality than is DNS. I've tried to use cheapo headsets.  WSR picks up every bit of background noise while using them.   Also had problems completing training.  Commands tend to work OK, but dictation not so well.   Upgrade to a better Microphone :-)  Some are expensive http://www.emicrophones.com/p-1117-sennheiser-md-431ii-complete.aspx, some not so much. 
http://www.emicrophones.com/p-1199-samson-q7-dynamic.aspx

You mention you don't like to be 'tethered' to a headset.

 I use the wireless Samson Airline 77 http://www.emicrophones.com/p-1154-samson-airline-77-wireless-usb-headset.aspx.  It was expensive, but it works great with WSR. I think its one of the best ones out there. Very comfortable. Fantastic range.  Great accuracy.  Only negative is replacing batteries regularly.  This is mitigated with rechargeable ones.  Also wouldn't have minded a 'beep' when the battery is running low.  

I've also messed around with some of the bluetooth headsets (BlueAnt Q7) with mixed results.  WSR and bluetooth have some known accuracy/compatibility issues, but I found it moderately usable for commands and limited dictation. Your mileage may vary.
 

bipolarbear wrote: Actually it's that WSR has a much more sensitive intput level than dns. Microphone levels required to get good results from dns would absolutely pin WSR. They need two different intput levels

You really need to reference the points you are referring to?

bipolarbear wrote: Actually, I'm referring to any microphone I've used with the two of them. In each case, optimal results with WSR required a much lower microphone volume than dns. This is empirically gathered information. Does not require any special audio knowledge or training, but even if it did, I think 24 years as a professional musician in live and studio situations would qualify me to speak on it.

Thank you for telling us what you were referring to. This is helpful.