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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=365">gwatts</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13/Jun/2011 at 6:21am<br /><br />andy t<br><br>I appreciate the detailed response. It is most helpful.<br>Thank you.<br><br>G<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=111">andy t</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12/Jun/2011 at 4:42pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>gwatts<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 5pt 0cm; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Quote" alt="Quote" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> 1I dictate into multiple targets such as the address bar and Google in Firefox,Chromf before Microsoft Office the for Microsoft word e and in WindowsExplorer, LibreOffice spreadsheet and writer, Microsoft Word and Excel 2002,WordPad, Notepad, as well as DragonPad and the dictation box. I am dictatinginto this message box now. Usually my dictation works pretty well in all ofthese but too often it is not transferred from the results box, where it isvisible, into the target.</td></tr></table><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"></span><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>Iuse DNS 11 Professional.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font></p><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>If I want to dictate intothe address bar I simply say "Go to address bar" and then change tospell mode.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I find this much easierbecause there are normally special characters when spelling out a websiteaddress.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I'm not 100% sure but I believeyou can dictate into Google but there may be limitations.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Regarding that, Firefox and Chrome, you cancheck out if there are commands for these in the Dragon Command Browser andalso the limitations of dictation for them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>I'm not sure withLibreOffice spreadsheet and writer because I've never heard of it or usedit.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>Microsoft Word 2007, I havenever normally had a problem dictating into here with DNS.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>The only problem I have ever had regardingdictation in Word using DNS is when I have lost the "NatSpeak" add-inand then dictation will not work within Word at all.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>You then, have to physically re-enable theadd-in from within "Word Options" within a Word document when thishappens.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>As I have said, it may be timeto ditch your Word 2002 and upgrade.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>I know itworks in Excel 2007 and 2010.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Once again,Excel 2002 sounds outdated so<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>it may be time to upgrade:-).<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>I know itworks 100% in WordPad, Notepad and DragonPad very accurately.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I have used the dictation box before but Ihave found it to be a bit flaky and unreliable.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>I acquired a well-known piece of software to complement DNS.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>With this additional software, if I dictateinto Word for example before I transfer into a website reply such as this oneor any other, I can say things like "Copy/Cut all to other Window."<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Microsoft Word will then minimise and all thewording from Word will transfer automatically to the website reply window inquestion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Quote" alt="Quote" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> </span><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>the dictation is visible in the results box but is eithersignificantly delayed or will not move into the target or execute the command.</td></tr></table><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>This is awell-known latency problem within Dragon and using Vista does not help.&nbsp; <br></span></p><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>Dragon is awell-known resource hog and therefore I believe you would need at least 4 GB (possibly more) and extra cachet for your computer to be able to combat this problem completely.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>It is also well-known that Vista is old hat now and a pain in the a** if you want the truth.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>It may pay you to upgrade to Windows 7.&nbsp; Thiswill at least give you a chance with the problems you are having.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>Seeing asthis is generally a Windows Speech Recognition website and not a DNS website,it may pay you to visit a well-known DNS website under the heading forum"NaturallySpeaking" for questions on DNS and especially the one thatyou pose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>I know for afact that another reason that can cause the latency problem you are experiencingin the results box of DNS are dead links on your computer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>You can getrid of them here:<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 5pt 0cm; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><u><span style='color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-find-and-delete-dead-links-on-your-computer-automatically/<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 5pt 0cm; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><u><span style='color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><a href="http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shman.html" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="Arial">http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shman.html</font></a><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 5pt 0cm; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><u><span style='color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>http://www.watchingthenet.com/find-and-fix-broken-shortcuts-in-windows-xp-vista.html<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 5pt 0cm; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>(Same as the one above but with more information from Microsoft)<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 5pt 0cm; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne; mso-paginati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><u><span style='color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p><span style="text-decorati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;">&nbsp;</span></o:p></span></u></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Quote" alt="Quote" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> </span><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>2 Why do you think I'm trying to switch to WSR? I have never usedWSR (at least knowingly and just now I had to look it up to see what it is). Isthere some way one can use this system without realizing it?</td></tr></table><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>As Marty andbecause this is a Windows Speech Recognition website, I just assumed you wereusing this.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Windows Speech Recognition orWSR for short is an alternative application to DNS.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>It is free with every version of WindowsVista and 7 as far as I am aware.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>As Martypointed out, there are advantages and disadvantages with this application overDNS.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>That is why I use both and get thebest of both worlds out of each speech app.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>Once again,WSR is much more stable under Windows 7 than in Vista.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>My advice once again would be for you toupgrade to Windows 7 as soon as you can and you will see what I mean.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Once trained, WSR is fairly accurate but tobe honest, not as accurate as DNS using dictation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I find however, the command side much fasterin WSR in certain circumstances.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Thereis also the advantage of the "ShowNumbers" command within WSR asMarty has mentioned.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>Togetherwith the WSR macros program and profile tool, it is totally free along with allthe advice you get as well.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>You may beinterested and if you are, it may be in your interest to look at an overview onhow it works.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Here is a link below onthat subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/enable/products/windowsvista/speech.aspx" target="_blank"><u><font size="2" face="Arial">http://www.microsoft.com/enable/products/windowsvista/speech.aspx</font></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>I hope thishelps you and makes more sense now ;-).<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;'>andy t<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><div></div></font><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by andy t - 12/Jun/2011 at 4:53pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1">mmarkoe_admin</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12/Jun/2011 at 10:49am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by gwatts" alt="Originally posted by gwatts" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>gwatts wrote:</strong><br /><br /><BR>Thank you for your response. <BR><DIV>2 Why do you think I'm trying to switch to WSR? I have never used WSR (at least knowingly and just now I had to look it up to see what it is). Is there some way one can use this system without realizing it?</td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>I just assumed since this is a MSSpeech Forum dedicated to WSR you were using WSR.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>For Navigation control, WSR works great. You can just say, "Show Numbers," and you will be able to select any button, link, etc. on the screen. If your OS is Vista or Windows 7 you can easily try this and dictation as There is no conflict between Dragon and WSR as long as the microphone is only in the On (Listening in WSR) state in one program at a time. Simply go to Control Panel, Speech Recognition and you should be up and running with 5 minutes.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>WSR is free. In addition it's accuracy is darn good. There is an add-on called WSRMacros which allows scripting control like Dragon's Professional versions. eMicrophones <a href="http://www.emicroph&#111;nes.com/p-3033-wsrtoolkit-v2.aspx" target="_blank"><strong>WSRToolkit V2</strong></A> adds many of the features you come to see in Dragon (Accuracy Tuning, Digital Transcription of .WAV files, etc.) in addition to an easy to use Macro creation wizard.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marty</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=365">gwatts</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12/Jun/2011 at 6:11am<br /><br />andy t<br><br>Thank you for your response. <br><br>1 I dictate into multiple targets such as the address bar and Google in&nbsp; Firefox, Chrome and in Windows Explorer, LibreOffice spreadsheet and writer, Microsoft Word and Excel 2002, WordPad, Notepad, as well as DragonPad and the dictation box. I am dictating into this message box now. Usually my dictation works pretty well in all of these but too often it is not transferred from the results box, where it is visible, into the target.<br><br>2 Why do you think I'm trying to switch to WSR? I have never used WSR (at least knowingly and just now I had to look it up to see what it is). Is there some way one can use this system without realizing it?<br><br>3 I don't understand your question about using Dragon and moving it into the preferred target unless you're referring to the dictation box.<br><br>4 I agree Word 2002 is pushing it.<br><br>I found this statement (below in quotation marks) regarding LibreOffice so I suppose MSAA is not used. Interestingly, I think dictation into LibreOffice works just about as well as it does into DragonPad or Microsoft Excell or Word. I don't know about MSAA and the other targets.<br><br>"UAA and JAA have some advantages over the off-screen models of AT tools or the Microsoft Active Accessibility API (MSAA). UAA and JAA provide extended information for the document content,"<br><br>Thank you.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=111">andy t</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12/Jun/2011 at 2:14am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-: EN;' lang="EN">gwatts,<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-: EN;' lang="EN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-: EN;' lang="EN"><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by gwatts" alt="Originally posted by gwatts" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>gwatts wrote:</strong><br /><br />Frequently when dictating into Microsoft Word 2002,DragonPad, Libreoffice 3, or dictating commands, and even the dictation box thedictation is visible in the results box but is either significantly delayed orwill not move into the target or execute the command.<br><br>Using Vista, DNS Medical 10.1, revolabs xtag mic. This occurs on two separatecomputers and even as new user.</td></tr></table><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>Firstly, what is the target you aretrying to execute your dictation into?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>Secondly, Marty is perfectlycorrect when he says, "</span><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>For WSR dictationto work, an application must conform to MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility)guidelines published for application developers.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>When these guidelines are followed, anapplication will not only accept WSR dictation but will allow proper navigationthat is especially important for people with disabilities."<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>Thirdly, if you have DNS Medical 10.1and you're using DragonPad, why do you not continue to use DNS itself insteadof trying to switch to WSR?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Why do younot then use Dragon to move your dictation into your preferred target?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Although I agree, DragonPad should work andcan be transferred into another application such as Word 2007 using WSR.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>I have tried this myself and I know for afact it works in WSR.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Once again, itwill not work in either application if the application you want your dictationto be transferred into does not conform to MSAA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 7.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>Finally, Microsoft Word 2002 (I maybe wrong here) sounds a bit outdated and it may be time for you to step up toat least Word 2007 for better results in your quest here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>These are just my observations tothe problems you pose and nothing else.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;'><br>andy t<o:p></o:p></span><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font></p><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by andy t - 12/Jun/2011 at 2:17am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1">mmarkoe_admin</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/Jun/2011 at 5:22pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by gwatts" alt="Originally posted by gwatts" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>gwatts wrote:</strong><br /><br />Thank you Marty but what about the others?&nbsp; DragonPad, Libreoffice 3, or dictating commands, and even the dictation box?</td></tr></table><DIV></DIV>For WSR dictation to work, an application must conform to&nbsp;MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility) guidelines published for application developers. When these guidelines are followed, an application will not only accept WSR dictation but will allow proper navigation which is especially important for people with disabilities. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>As a note, it costs nothing for a developer to follow the guidelines except the time to read them.</DIV><DIV><BR>Marty</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=365">gwatts</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/Jun/2011 at 3:20pm<br /><br />Thank you Marty but what about the others?&nbsp; DragonPad, Libreoffice 3, or dictating commands, and even the dictation box? &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1">mmarkoe_admin</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/Jun/2011 at 11:53am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by gwatts" alt="Originally posted by gwatts" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>gwatts wrote:</strong><br /><br />Frequently when dictating into Microsoft Word 2002, DragonPad, Libreoffice 3, or dictating commands, and even the dictation box the dictation is visible in the results box but is either significantly delayed or will not move into the target or execute the command.<BR><BR>Using Vista,&nbsp; DNS Medical 10.1, revolabs xtag mic. This occurs on two separate computers and even as new user.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>I do not believe Word 2002 is supported by WSR. WSR works fast and accurately in Word 2007.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marty</DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mmarkoe_admin - 10/Jun/2011 at 11:56am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=365">gwatts</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 241<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/Jun/2011 at 11:21am<br /><br />Frequently when dictating into Microsoft Word 2002, DragonPad, Libreoffice 3, or dictating commands, and even the dictation box the dictation is visible in the results box but is either significantly delayed or will not move into the target or execute the command.<br><br>Using Vista,&nbsp; DNS Medical 10.1, revolabs xtag mic. This occurs on two separate computers and even as new user.]]>
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